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Credo di averlo scritto a più riprese che il rinnovamento dell’aeronautica giapponese non fosse del tutto compatibile con i sogni di gloria di un caccia autoctono tutto nuovo, cui affidare in toto i futuri piani di riequipaggiamento.

La presenza cinese si fa sempre più ingombrante e la Corea del Nord non è certo diventata di punto in bianco un paese per figli dei fiori solo perché Kim è diventato (…) culo e camicia con Trump.

Parte degli F-15 devono essere sostituiti in tempi più brevi di quelli consentiti da un aereo di nuova progettazione, che al momento non si sa manco cosa sia e con chi farlo e non tanto e non solo perché gli Eagle siano vecchi anagraficamente (sappiamo quanto possono essere fatte durare quelle cellule), ma perché lo sono concettualmente.

La Cina costruisce portaerei e J-20: il Giappone deve costruire più F-35A e piazzare qualche F-35B sulle Izumo.

Adesso si aspetta di capire se anche lo ski jump delle Camberra  australiane sia veramente un inutile accessorio retaggio della Juan Carlos, come qualcuno dice sia, o se certi problemucci in quell’angolo di mondo non mettano prima o poi  in secondo piano i costi di adattamento all’F-35B.

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Exercise Point Blank ... ovvero ... tutti insieme appassionatamente ...

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U.S. Air Force F-15E Strike Eagles from the 48th Fighter Wing, have been training with British F-35B and Typhoon aircraft as well as French Rafales for exercise Point Blank at RAF Lakenheath, UK, this week.
Point Blank is the name of a recurring LFE (Large Force Exercise) designed and cohosted by the Royal Air Force and the 48th Fighter Wing at RAF Lakenheath. 
Historically, these drills have involved a limited number of assets in a smaller scale and regional level exercise. 
However, iteration 18-3 is the largest Point Blank ever, that nearly doubled the aircraft which attended the previous editions and the addition, for the first time, of the French Air Force.

Fonte: theaviationist.com ... RAF F-35B, U.S. Air Force F-15E and French Air Force Rafale Jets Together For The First Time During Exercise Point Blank ...

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Oooops  !   😲

Anche mammina RAI si è accorta dello F-35.

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/media/F35-italiani-operativi-ed-inseriti-nella-difesa-aerea-nazionale-9a47ef93-e79d-4c96-9d8d-b2b496e5dee4.html

Non ditelo in giro 🤫  . Il grillino t'ascolta.

 

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Turchia ... il Pentagono sta perdendo la pazienza ...

Dal 'Daily Report' dell'AFA del 30-11-2018 ...

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DOD: Turkish S-400 Purchase Could Risk the Country’s Involvement in F-35 Program ...

The Pentagon is considering kicking Turkey out of the F-35 program, despite its large investment in the development of the jet, if the country takes delivery of Russian-made anti-aircraft systems, the Defense Department told Congress. 
A Pentagon report, obtained by Bloomberg (*), states that though Turkey has invested more than $1.25 billion in the F-35 program, the administration “will reassess Turkey’s continued participation” should they buy the S-400 system. 
Turkey has said it plans to take delivery of the advanced Russian system as early as July 2019, a move that has received strong rebukes by both the Pentagon and Capitol Hill. 
Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson said earlier this year that the US military opposes Turkey’s planned purchase of the system because it wants to protect the F-35, and “we would not want to have that aircraft close to the S-400.” 

- Brian Everstine

(*) ... bloomberg.com ... Turkey’s F-35 Role at Risk If It Buys From Russia, Pentagon Warns ...

 

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 I 'd have already kicked 'em out ! 👞🇹🇷

Ma il Pentagono tiene paura di perdere Incirlik    👞🇺🇸 .

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La Turchia ?
Potremmo anche farne tranquillamente a meno ...

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A potential decision by the United States to remove Turkey from the F-35 program over its purchase of the Russian S-400 missile system may have only minimal impact on the fighter jet’s industrial base, a senior U.s. Air Force official said Tuesday.
President Donald Trump has yet to determine what steps the Defense Department may take if Turkey moves forward with the S-400 buy. 
However, Heidi Grant, the Air Force’s deputy undersecretary for international affairs, said Pentagon analysis shows there won’t be a catastrophe if Turkey is forced from the program.
“While it will have some impact on the F-35 program, I don’t think it’s going to be any type of devastating impact if … there’s a policy decision that they are no longer a partner,” Grant told reporters in a Dec. 4 roundtable interview just weeks before she puts a cap on a 16-year career with the Air Force.

Fonte: defensenews.com/air ... No ‘devastating impact’ to F-35 industrial base if Turkey removed from program, says US Air Force official ...

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UK F-35B ... l' esperienza acquisita a bordo della HMS Queen Elizabeth ... che, penso, dovrebbe interessare, oltre che allo USMC, anche alla nostra Marina Militare ...

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After more than a decade of study, experimentation, modelling and simulation, the UK has successfully completed a first phase of testing using a shipborne rolling vertical landing (SRVL) manoeuvre for the Lockheed Martin F-35B on board the Royal Navy’s new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth.
Fifteen SRVL recoveries were performed using integrated test force (ITF) development aircraft BF-04 and BF-05 during the two periods of development testing (DT-1/DT-2) during the ship's recent first-of-class flight trials. 
Pilots and test engineers from the ITF embarked for the activity confirm that initial testing validated simulations and has given confidence in the innovative manoeuvre.

Fonte: flightglobal.com ...ANALYSIS: UK on a roll after F-35B carrier trials ...

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Initial Operational Test and Evaluation ...  qualche ulteriore dettaglio ... direttamente dall'Air Combat Command dell'Air Force ...

... 31st TES begins F-35 Initial Operational Test and Evaluation ...

Mentre, dal canto suo, SputnikNews tiene a precisare:  "16 Months Behind Schedule" ... :bleh:

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A margine della notizia sull'operatività del Meteor sui Typhoon inglesi , qui si riporta che l'arma sarà integrata anche sugli F-35 B  ( ??? )

http://www.air-cosmos.com/le-meteor-operationnel-sur-typhoon-118087

Non ditelo al ministero di Roma 🤫   sennò   an'vedi , mah , vedamo, discutamo,  ebboh ....  

 

16 ore fa, TT-1 Pinto ha scritto:

Sta circolando questa notizia ...

... defence-blog.com ... Netherlands plans to buy additional F-35 fighter jets ...

Si parla di almeno 15 esemplari ... ma potrebbero essere di più ...

Adesso lo voglio proprio tutti ! 

Non ditelo al ministero di Roma   🤫   sennò   an'vedi , mah , vedamo, discutamo,  ebboh ....

 

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4 ore fa, engine ha scritto:

A margine della notizia sull'operatività del Meteor sui Typhoon inglesi , qui si riporta che l'arma sarà integrata anche sugli F-35 B  ( ??? )

http://www.air-cosmos.com/le-meteor-operationnel-sur-typhoon-118087

Non mi pare ci sia da stupirsi ... perché sono proprio gli F-35B che i britannici stanno acquistando ... almeno per ora ...

E questo potrebbe dunque comportare una ricaduta favorevole per quei 30 (15 MM + 15 AM) che dovrebbero arrivare dalle nostre parti ...

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Il costo del nuovo caccia, che alla fine dovrebbe sostituire i caccia attualmente più avanzati della US Air Force, potrebbe raggiungere $300 milioni, riporta Defense News.

300 milioni...Ma questi, in 6 righe striminzite, la piccola precisazione che Defence news non parlasse dell'F-35, ma del successivo caccia di sesta generazione potevano aggiungercela?

 

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WASHINGTON — A next-generation air superiority jet for the U.S. Air Force, known by the service as Penetrating Couter Air, could cost about $300 million in 2018 dollars per plane, the  Congressional Budget Office states in a new study.

At that price, PCA would be more than three times that of the average F-35A jet, which is set at about $94 million to capture both the expense of early production lots and the decline in cost as the production rate increases, according the report, which predicts the cost of replacing the Air Force’s aircraft inventory from now until 2050.

 

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/12/14/budget-watchdogs-warn-of-expensive-price-tag-for-next-air-force-fighter/

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I Giapponesi ... fanno sul serio !

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The Japanese cabinet has approved a plan to add an additional 105 Lockheed Martin F-35s to its planned fleet of 42 examples, potentially making it the world’s second largest F-35 operator.
In a press briefing, the chief cabinet secretary Yoshihide Suga confirmed that the country’s Medium Term Defence Program has been approved by the cabinet.
Of Tokyo’s eventual F-35 fleet of 147 examples, it is likely that 107 will be conventional take-off and landing F-35As, while 40 will be short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) F-35Bs.

Fonte: flightglobal.com ... Tokyo set to become second biggest F-35 operator ...

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Non solo F-35 in maggior numero per il Giappone ... la carne al fuoco sembra essere tanta ... ed emerge la possibilità che la produzione dei caccia stealth sul territorio nazionale venga abbandonata ... 

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Amid Rising Chinese Threat, Japan Stays Within Spending Limit ...

(Bradley Perrett - AW&ST - Dec. 19, 2018)

Japan is adding 105 Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightnings to its fighter acquisition program, while also upgrading Boeing F-15s and buying aircraft that probably will renew the country’s tanker and airborne-early-warning (AEW) fleets.
The defense ministry’s Medium Term Defense Plan, issued on Dec. 18, further sets out a program to buy 12 P-1 maritime patrollers and five C-2 airlifters from Kawasaki Heavy Industries during the planning period - the five fiscal years beginning April 1, 2019. 
The army is scheduled in that period to receive three Boeing CH-47JA Chinook and 34 Subaru UH-X helicopters, the latter based on the Bell 412EPX.
As an initial move toward enlarging the F-35 force, Japan will buy 45 in the five fiscal years beginning on April 1, 2019, including eight F-35As previously planned. 
The defense ministry has decided to drop local assembly of F-35s, which has been blamed for contributing to the high price Japan has been paying for the stealth fighters. 
Development of a new combat aircraft, to replace Mitsubishi Heavy Industries F-2s in the 2030s, will be launched in fiscal 2019-23; the exact timing is not stated. 
Japan will lead the program, called the Future Fighter, the ministry says. 
Twenty F-15s will be upgraded with improved electronic-warfare systems and an ability to use the Lockheed Martin AGM-158 Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile.
The additional F-35s will bring Japan’s Lightning fleet to 147 when acquisition is completed after 2023. 
Of the additional 105 fighters, 42 will be short-takeoff-and-vertical-landing (STOVL) F-35Bs and 63 will be F-35As, according to a cabinet decision published with the defense ministry’s plan. 
The F-35As are designed to fly from conventionally long runways,
The anti-submarine helicopter carriers Izumo and Kaga will be converted to operate STOVL aircraft, the ministry says, referring to F-35Bs. 
They will be “multifunction escort ships” for “defense and disaster relief,” permissible under the constitution, it explains. 
The ministry conspicuously avoids the expression “aircraft carrier,” the power-projection connotation that could make many of Japan’s generally pacifist people uneasy.
Shipboard STOVL aircraft are needed “to strengthen the air defense of Japan’s Pacific side, which has a vast airspace but few airfields,” the ministry says. 
It may be thinking particularly of the southwest of the country, where air bases mostly face the Sea of Japan. 
In the middle of the archipelago, the island of Honshu appears to have no shortage of bases on its Pacific side.
For the AEW fleet, nine Northrop Grumman E-2D Hawkeyes will join four others previously planned. 
The total of 13 will be enough for one-for-one replacement of the current fleet of E-2Cs. 
Similarly, it would appear the four additional Boeing KC-46A tanker-transports in the defense plan are intended to replace four Boeing KC-767s; they will join three KC-46As that Japan decided to buy, in 2015.
The navy will get 23 new ships in fiscal 2019-23, including five submarines (of which Japan almost always builds one a year) and 10 “escorts.” 
In Japanese usage, escort, loosely translated as “destroyer,” can mean a frigate, air-defense destroyer or even helicopter carrier. 
In 2019-23, there also will be four ships clearly defined as frigates.
The plan further provides for acquiring two Aegis Ashore missile-defense sites, which was announced previously. 
One Northrop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk UAS is scheduled for purchase in fiscal 2019-23.
A program for naval utility helicopters - already suspended - is absent from the plan, and there is no mention of a new requirement for surveillance drones, which suppliers have thought could emerge.
More immediately, the ministry has requested a 7.2% increase over 2018 for the fiscal 2019 defense budget - the largest hike since 1990. 
The request will keep spending at 0.9% of GDP, below the politically sensitive 1.0% limit that has been respected since 1961. 
The government, however, seems to be softening the public to spend more.
Defense Minister Takeshi Iwaya noted in October that NATO countries are working toward spending 2% of GDP on defense. 
While 2% need not be a specific target for Japan, he says an assessment of required forces found spending of about that level is needed. 
Considering the security environment - mainly the growing Chinese threat - some parts of the budget are insufficient, he says.
The most expensive item in the ¥5.29 trillion ($47 billion) fiscal 2019 request is again ballistic missile defense. 
Japan plans to place two Aegis Ashore sites, one each at the southwestern and northern ends of Honshu, covering all of Japan including Okinawa. 
With a total of 48 SM-3 interceptors, the sites are expected to provide a defense against limited attacks from North Korea or China.

 

 

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E Jane's conferma ... https://www.janes.com/article/85299/japan-to-spend-more-than-usd240-billion-on-defence-over-next-five-years ...

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Defence officials also pointed out that Japan will stop using a final assembly and check-out (FACO) facility for the country’s F-35As from FY 2019 and start buying completed F-35As and F-35Bs to reduce procurement costs.

 

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Va da sé che i Sudcoreani, sui nuovi programmi militari del Giappone, storcono il naso ... 😡

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But a South Korean defense official speaking on condition of anonymity said, “What they’re saying is that Japan will use [the retrofitted destroyers] as aircraft carriers if it deems it necessary.”
“In general, the NDPG includes a lot of things that go beyond the scope of an exclusive defense orientation,” the official added.
“The part about Japan acquiring over 100 new fifth-generation F-35 fighter aircraft signals their intent to gain air supremacy, which is a major concern for its neighbors.”

Fonte ... http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/875041.html ...

 

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