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Paranoia?

 

The visit by a HAL team to Dassault facilities in France has been put on hold amid efforts by the government to verify the linkages between AgustaWestland's parent firm Finmecannica and other European defence companies.

 

Fonte .... "HAL Team's Visit to French Dassault Facilities Put on Hold" .... http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=826755

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Non era questa la discussione ove intendevo postare .... :blushing:

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Freena .... Freeeeena .... FREEENAAAA !!!!

 

India Slows Action On Procurement Deals ....

 

With general elections expected before May, corruption scandals over high-profile defense deals, and a deflated rupee, Defense Minister A.K. Antony, who has cultivated an image of integrity, has taken a go-slow approach on vitally needed equipment projects.

The slowdown has taken hold as India is expected to spend approximately $100 billion on military modernization in the next 10 years, to boost its military capability as a hedge against neighboring rivals China and Pakistan.

 

Fonte .... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_02_03_2014_p40-658973.xml

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Impasse ....

 

India, Dassault Rafale Deal Appears Stalled ....

 

Negotiations over the multibillion dollar deal to sell 126 Dassault Rafale jets to India have stalled, according to Indian Defence Ministry sources, who say the sticking point involves issues governing license-production of the jets at state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL).

A series of meetings held over the past three months have failed to resolve the stalemate, the sources said, meaning it is unlikely the deal will be finalized during the current New Delhi administration.

 

Fonte .... http://mobile.defensenews.com/article/302040016

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"Non ci sono i soldi per il Rafale .... almeno per ora" .... lo afferma il Ministro della Difesa indiano A. K. Antony ....

 

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"Tight Funding Pushes Indian Fighter Buy Further Out" .... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_02_06_2014_p0-661156.xml

 

"No money this fiscal for Rafale jets: A K Antony" .... http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/no-money-this-fiscal-for-rafale-jets-a-k-antony/

 

"Rafale fighter jet deal deferred, no money left, shocks A K Antony" .... http://www.financialexpress.com/news/rafale-fighter-jet-deal-deferred-no-money-left-shocks-a-k-antony/1223812

 

 

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Un passo avanti .... ma potrebbero ancora mancare settimane, se non mesi, alla firma definitiva del contratto ....

 

Dassault Agrees Rafale Workshare With India ....

 

Dassault Aviation has reached a firm agreement with India’s Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) over workshare for the 126 Rafale fighters that the country has agreed to buy.

The agreement was confirmed on Thursday at Dassault’s annual financial results press conference in Paris by CEO Eric Trappier.

The agreement covers the general configuration of the aircraft, the technology transfers and the detailed workshare between the two partners and their subcontractors.
Also, it clarifies the mechanism for handling warranties, said Trappier.

 

Fonte .... http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ain-defense-perspective/2014-03-13/dassault-agrees-rafale-workshare-india

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Rafael punta al .... Rafale ....

 

Rafael targets Indian Rafale opportunity ....

 

Israeli guided weapons manufacturer Rafael is offering its Python 5 and Derby air-to-air missiles for integration with some of the Dassault Rafales expected to enter service with the Indian air force.

 

Fonte .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/rafael-targets-indian-rafale-opportunity-397894/

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Dopo anni di tira e molla in una trattativa che appariva interminabile ..... qualcosa ha cominciato a muoversi .....

 

"l'Inde passe commande de 36 avions de chasse à la France" ..... http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2015/04/10/l-inde-commande-36-avions-de-chasse-rafale-a-la-france_4614097_3234.html

 

..... anche se si dovrà continuare a discutere (chissà per quanto tempo ancora) sui piani relativi alla produzione su licenza in India di ulteriori tranches di velivoli .....

 

Una cosa è comunque certa ..... hanno una fretta del diavolo ..... anche alla luce dell'impasse in cui si è venuto a trovare il programma congiunto indo-russo riguardante il caccia di 5^ generazione FGFA/PAK-FA .....

 

"Analysis: India faces crunch decision over Rafale, PAK-FA" ..... http://www.janes.com/article/50530/analysis-india-faces-crunch-decision-over-rafale-pak-fa

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36 anziché 18 ..... come si era previsto inizialmente .....

 

That figure of 36 doubles an initial batch of 18 Rafales built in France that prime contractor Dassault Aviation had been due to deliver within India's prospective total order of 126 fighters for $12 billion.

The French company has been locked in three years of contract negotiations as New Delhi sought to boost the domestic industrial base with local assembly of 108 units.

Details on price and the total number of Rafales to be bought under the new proposal remain unclear.

Indian Ministry of Defence officials were unavailable for comment.

 

Fonte ..... "Rafale Proposal Could Speed Deliveries to India" ..... http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/air-force/2015/04/11/rafale-india-france-fighter-jets-dassault-modi-hollande-export-pakistan-china-snecma-thales/25588979/

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Nuovo colpo di scena nell'ormai infinita 'novela' MMRCA .....

 

Secondo Jane's l'India avrebbe deciso di limitare a soli 36 esemplari l'acquisto dei 'Rafale' e, con i fondi così risparmiati, punterebbe a rafforzare il progetto nazionale 'Tejas/LCA' ..... :woot:

 

"Indian defence minister draws line at 36 Rafales" .....

(448 of 509 words) ..... http://www.janes.com/article/51616/indian-defence-minister-draws-line-at-36-rafales

 

In fiduciosa attesa del prossimo ..... :whistling:

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Be comunque Dassault piangera' con un solo occhio. Intanto piazza 36 macchine (fatte in casa sua)

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Nuovo colpo di scena nell'ormai infinita 'novela' MMRCA .....

 

Secondo Jane's l'India avrebbe deciso di limitare a soli 36 esemplari l'acquisto dei 'Rafale' e, con i fondi così risparmiati, punterebbe a rafforzare il progetto nazionale 'Tejas/LCA' ..... :woot:

 

"Indian defence minister draws line at 36 Rafales" .....

(448 of 509 words) ..... http://www.janes.com/article/51616/indian-defence-minister-draws-line-at-36-rafales

 

In fiduciosa attesa del prossimo ..... :whistling:

 

Oh, mio dio, gli Indiani, sempre i soliti...

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Sembra confermato l'abbandono del mmrca. Il Deal per 36 Rafale costruiti in Francia dovrebbe sopravvivere a questo vortice di notizie contraddittorie.

(Se finisce cosi Dassault che non accetterà mai di dare una garanzia "alla cieca" su esemplari prodotti da terzi offre lo Champagne a tutti i dipendenti.)

http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/rafale-l-inde-renonce-a-signer-le-contrat-du-siecle-avec-dassault-aviation-480287.html

 

Dubito comunque che un "pacco" di soli 36 esemplari abbia un benché minimo senso nella gestione di un aeronautica come quella indiana...

Sembra un ultimo colpo di Bluff da parte degli Indiani: "o si fa tutto alle nostre condizioni o non si fa nulla".

 

 

à suivre ...

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Nulla sarebbe non comprare neppure i 36 esemplari.E' la loro discutibile strategia di acquisto di materiale bellico. Altro esempio? I 20 e poco più apache appena acquistati. Ebbene, su A&D ho letto che in estate è prevista l operatività iniziale del loro elicottero d attacco. Anche nell ottica di riduzione del rischio, ha senso comprare due elicotteri così simili?

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A questo punto, se non si tratta di un tentativo disperato di Bluff, la logica vorrebbe che l'India non comprasse nessun Rafale.

inclusione\coerenza tattica nell'insieme delle forze aeronautiche + costi logistica+ formazione piloti + formazione personnale manutenzione per ... 36 esemplari??

Un'assurdità.

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Forse, sotto sotto, si aspettano che i Francesi, ormai completamente in preda a confusione e disperazione, glieli regalino ..... pur di toglierseli dai 'cosiddetti' ..... :D

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36 o 126 ?

Meraviglioso ..... gli Indiani dicono una cosa ..... i Francesi un'altra .....

 

Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar fueled speculation about the final size of the Rafale order May 31 when he said the French fighters were "way too expensive" and there was no longer a plan to buy a total of 126 Rafales.

But Dassault Aviation Chairman Eric Trappier said the 126-jet deal "is under discussion," although he admitted progress is slow.

 

Fonte ..... "Indian Rafale Cost Criticism Raises Doubts on MMRCA" ..... http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/strike/2015/06/06/india-rafale-costs-chance-wider-deal-expensive-dassault-eurofighter-mmrca/28535905/

 

Chissà se, un giorno, Bollywood realizzerà un grandioso film su questa interminabile vicenda ..... :whistling:

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L'accordo fra i governi è stato firmato ..... ma manca ancora quello definitivo .....

 

“During French President François Hollande's visit to India, French and Indian government authorities signed an intergovernmental agreement paving the way for the conclusion of a contract for the sale of 36 Rafale fighters to India,” Dassault said in a statement.

“Dassault Aviation is very pleased with this progress, and is actively supporting French authorities in their efforts to finalize a complete agreement within the next four weeks.”

 

Fonte ..... "Dassault Expects Rafale Contract With India Within Month" ..... http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/strike/2016/01/25/dassault-expects-rafale-contract-india-within-month/79292220/

 

 

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L'odissea è durata meno ...

Fa in tempo a finire beautiful di questo passo....

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behhhh ora non cambieranno idea mille volte nei prossimi due lustri per la mimetica da adottare? Poveri mangiarane, non sanno in che valle di lacrime sono entrati

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