Marina Militare Indiana

[madmike]

Può essere, ma credo che la 'politica interna' interessi poco agli indiani: sono anni e anni che ci tirano dentro, 6 mesi in più o meno non gli avrebbero cambiato la vita.

[TT-1 Pinto]

Può essere, ma credo che la 'politica interna' interessi poco agli indiani: sono anni e anni che ci tirano dentro, 6 mesi in più o meno non gli avrebbero cambiato la vita.

 

Vero anche questo .... però .... perché c'è sempre un però .... si potrebbe anche considerare il varo, avvenuto meno di una settimana fa, di quel "caccia" tuttoponte giapponese che, in un futuro più o meno prossimo, potrebbe, almeno in teoria, essere trasformato in una vera e propria portaerei ....

 

Ecco che scatta allora l'orgoglio nazionale .... "E che .... dobbiamo proprio essere noi gli ultimi?"

[madmike]

Beh oddio, la stai tirando per i capelli.....

 

Francamente che si sentano colpiti da una portaelicotteri, vs una portaerei VERA, è da discutere...

[TT-1 Pinto]

Video .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id47ompB6IM

[TT-1 Pinto]

Esplosione a bordo di un sottomarino (tipo "Kilo") nella base navale di Mumbai .... 18 membri dell'equipaggio intrappolati ....

 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Mumbai/Navy-submarine-INS-Sindhurakshak-on-fire-after-explosion-18-sailors-untraced/Article1-1107807.aspx

 

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/navy-submarine-ins-sindhurakshak-gutted-after-explosion-18-sailors-feared-trapped-405494

 

Secondo Wikipedia .... già nel 2010 c'era stato un precedente .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Sindhurakshak_(S63)

[TT-1 Pinto]

 

Esplosione di siluri o missili imbarcati?

 

Navy sources, meanwhile, said that the explosion took place in the forward section of the Kilo class INS Sindhurakshak submarine which houses torpedoes and missiles.

 

Fonte .... http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cant-rule-out-sabotage-but-no-hint-yet-navy-chief-on-ins-sindhurakshak-tragedy/1155420/

[TT-1 Pinto]

I sommozzatori al lavoro all'interno del sottomarino affondato ....

 

Divers in Sub Where 18 Feared Dead ....

 

Indian navy divers have entered a crippled submarine hit by twin explosions but have yet to reach any of the 18 sailors who are feared dead inside the vessel, a naval official said Thursday.

The Russian-built submarine had also been damaged in a deadly explosion in 2010 and had only recently returned to service.

 

Fonte .... http://en.rian.ru/world/20130815/182784023/India-official-Divers-in-sub-where-18-feared-dead.html

[TT-1 Pinto]

Sospetti ....

 

INS Sindhurakshak tragedy: Veteran submariners suspect sabotage angle ....

 

Veteran submariners are suggesting that the Navy should not rule out the possibility of sabotage in the sinking of INS Sindhurakshak, even as indications are emerging that the vessel was preparing for "a war patrol" with armed torpedoes and cruise missiles close to Pakistani shores.

 

Fonte .... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/INS-Sindhurakshak-tragedy-Veteran-submariners-suspect-sabotage-angle/articleshow/21848395.cms

 

.... e, nonostante precedenti informazioni, i soccorritori non sarebbero ancora riusciti ad entrare nel battello .... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Two-days-after-blasts-Navy-rescuers-yet-to-enter-submarine/articleshow/21852108.cms

 

[holmes7]

La complessa vicenda dei sommergibili

 

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20131110.aspx

[TT-1 Pinto]

Miracolo !!!!

 

INS Vikramaditya inducted into the Indian Navy ....

The long-delayed and much-awaited USD 2.3 billion aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya was on Saturday inducted into the Indian Navy here in a strategic boost to India's maritime warfare capabilities.

The mammoth 44,500-tonne warship was commissioned into the Indian Navy at the Sevmash Shipyard in this northern Arctic port at a handing over ceremony attended by Defence Minister A K Antony and Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin and senior government and naval officials of the two countries.

 

Fonte .... http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ins-vikramaditya-handed-to-india-by-russia/1/325128.html

 

INS Vikramaditya stands tall in all its majesty minutes ahead of its commissioning into the Indian Navy, at the Sevmash Shipyard in Severodvinsk on Saturday.

The induction of the carrier, formerly Admiral Gorshkov, was attended by Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin and Defence Minister A.K. Antony. (Photo: S. Anandan)

 

 

Soltanto pochi giorni prima la nave aveva terminato le prove in mare ....

 

INS Vikramaditya Completes Sea Trials ....

The Indian navy ship Vikramaditya successfully completed testing recently and, after final adjustments and painting at Sevmash Dockyards in northwest Russia, was due to be handed over to a Indian navy crew of 1,326 that is eagerly awaiting the November 15 handover ceremony, just before the Dubai show.

 

Fonte .... http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/dubai-air-show/2013-11-15/ins-vikramaditya-completes-sea-trials

[TT-1 Pinto]

Due portaerei .... una .... quasi mezza nuova .... l'altra .... veterana della Guerra delle Falkland .... ed era già vecchia allora ....

 

 

On Jan. 5, the Indian Navy released some shots of its new flagship, INS Vikramaditya, a 40,000-ton 284 metres long and 60 mt high aircraft carrier.

On its way from Sevmash shipyard in North Russia, to Karwar on India’s western coast, the new aircraft carrier, accompanied by INS Trikand, a Talwar class frigate, INS Delhi, a Delhi class destroyer, and INS Deepak, the fleet tanker, has just entered Indian Navy’s Area of Operation in northwestern Arabian Sea where it met the rest of the Western Fleet, which includes the smaller aircraft carrier INS Viraat, two Delhi class destroyers, three Trishul class stealth frigates, a Godavari class frigate and a couple of offshore vessels.

 

Fonte .... http://theaviationist.com/2014/01/06/indian-navy-aircraft-carriers/

 

HMS Hermes (R12) .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Hermes_(R12)

 

INS Viraat (R22) .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Viraat_(R22)

 

.... per la terza .... ci vorrà ancora tempo ....

 

 

Vikrant will now enter the second phase of construction which will see the outfitting of the ship, fitment of various weapons and sensors, integration of the gigantic propulsion system and integration of the aircraft complex (with the assistance of M/s NDB of Russia).

The ship will then undergo extensive trials before she is handed over to the Indian Navy by around 2016-17.

 

Fonte .... http://indiannavy.nic.in/press-release/vikrant-navys-first-indigenous-aircraft-carrier-launched

[TT-1 Pinto]

Quasi quasi .... hanno gridato allo scandalo .... ma, tutto sommato, che c'è di strano?

 

INS Vikramaditya was spied upon by NATO aircraft and ship last year but the matter was hushed up ....

 

INS Vikramaditya, India's largest aircraft carrier, is safely in the Indian Navy's hands now, and will begin its journey home shortly.

But just a year ago, there was an incident that created a major stir on board the massive ship as it was put through trials at sea off the Russian coast.

 

INS Vikramaditya was spied upon by NATO forces.

 

Fonte .... http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ins-vikramaditya-was-spied-upon-by-nato-aircraft-and-ship-last-year/1/325335.html

[TT-1 Pinto]

Competizione per un cannone navale .... dei due concorrenti .... uno scappa a gambe levate .... l'altro fa parte di un gruppo industriale messo (quasi) all'indice ....

 

Navy's Guns Sink with Tender ....

 

The Navy’s plans to procure weapons for future warships are at risk of running aground.

The force urgently needs 127mm guns, but its tender for 13 guns estimated at Rs 1,500 crore finds itself in rough waters.

To start with, there were only two vendors for the guns globally.

Now, while one has walked out of the tender, the other is facing uncertainty due to its parent company’s woes.

 

Fonte .... http://www.newindianexpress.com/thesundaystandard/Navys-Guns-Sink-with-Tender/2014/01/19/article2007102.ece

 

Perché, dunque, l'India si trova in questa imbarazzante situazione?

 

The Navy is facing this situation also because the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has not been able to design and develop a 127mm/5-inch gun indigenously.

 

Anche su Jane's .... "BAE Systems pulls out of Indian Navy gun contest" .... http://www.janes.com/article/32811/bae-systems-pulls-out-of-indian-navy-gun-contest

 

Modificato 26 Gennaio 2014 da TT-1 Pinto

[TT-1 Pinto]

Una marina .... con qualche problema ....

 

"Indian Navy suffers 7th mishap in two months" .... http://www.janes.com/article/33326/indian-navy-suffers-7th-mishap-in-two-months

[Scagnetti]

Nuovo incidente per la marina militare indiana, 2 dispersi e 7 feriti su un sottomarino: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/submarine-ins-sindhuratna-mishap-two-officers-trapped-inside-feared-dead-7-sailors-injured/

 

Un riassunto dei "penultimi" incidenti tratto da un quotidiano indiano di un mese fa:

 

Mishaps expose chinks in Navy armour

Seven accidents involving frontline warships in as many weeks have exposed major chinks in the Navy armour and punctured the claim of Admiral D K Joshi made last month that the safety record of the force was “not all that bad”.

In the latest incident, INS Betwa — a Brahmaputra-class guided missile frigate — is suspected to have run aground or collided with an unidentified object while approaching the Mumbai naval base.

The sonar dome mounted on the hull of the frigate commissioned in 2004 has cracked, leading to faulty readings and ingress of saltwater into sensitive equipment. The damage, which has prompted a board of inquiry, has rendered the ship ineffective.

The incident called “minor” by the Navy is the latest in a series that have come to light since December 4, Navy Day. Defence Minister A K Antony is believed to have sought a report.

Joshi, whose term as the Navy Chief has seen several major incidents, including the loss of the INS Sindhurakshak submarine, had on December 3 defended the safety record of the force.

The very next evening, India’s leading minesweeper, the INS Konkan that was undergoing repairs in Vizag, caught fire and suffered major damage to its interiors. The Pondicherry-class minesweeper was getting a refit at a dry dock when the incident occurred.

In another incident, a 30-mm gun on ICSG Sangram, a patrol boat undergoing a refit at the naval docks in Mumbai, fired accidentally. The shell pierced the Naval headquarters building damaging a few offices and narrowly missing a few officers.

Following this, the INS Tarkash — a Talwar-class frigate which has conducted several overseas missions — hit the jetty while berthing at the Mumbai naval base. Its hull was badly damaged.

Late at night on December 23, the Navy suffered a major embarrassment after the INS Talwar collided with a fishing vessel 10 miles off the coast, injuring many. The 27 people aboard the fishing vessel had to be rescued after it sunk.

The dwindling submarine force of the Navy too suffered a setback when the Kilo-class INS Sindhugosh was “grounded” at the Mumbai base after it entered shallow waters at low tide. The submarine was, however, freed and did not suffer much damage.

A fault on board the INS Vipul, a Veer-class corvette that recently underwent repairs and refit, has also come to light. The warship, sources said, had to be sent back for repairs after a breach was discovered during sailing.

Besides these seven accidents, the Navy suffered its biggest blow last year when the INS Sindhurakshak submarine went down at the Mumbai harbour due to still unexplained explosions, killing 18 sailors. Almost six months later, the submarine is still lying at the bottom of the naval dock in Mumbai.

The Navy Chief asserted last month that it takes months and years for sunken submarines to be brought to surface.

 

 

Con tutti il dovuto rispetto per le vittime e i feriti, sembra che aeronautica e marina miltare indiana, siano in fiera competizione.

[TT-1 Pinto]

Con tutti il dovuto rispetto per le vittime e i feriti, sembra che aeronautica e marina miltare indiana, siano in fiera competizione.

 

Proprio pochi minuti fa, subito dopo di te .... ho postato, guarda caso, nella discussione dedicata alla "Indian Air Force", un articolo dove si annuncia un'altra debacle tecnologica dell'industria di quel paese ....

[Scagnetti]

Visto è risposto lì, queste non sonon solo debacle tecnologiche ma anche vistose inefficienze e leggerezze.

Intanto, poche ore dopo l'ulitmo incidente - l'undicesimo dall'affondamento del sottomarino INS Sindhurakshak di agosto, si dimette il capo di stato maggiore della marina indiana: Indian Navy chief admiral DK Joshi resigns hours after INS Sindhuratna mishap

 

Navy chief admiral DK Joshi resigned on Wednesday, hours after seven sailors suffered serious injuries and two officers remained "unaccounted for" in an accident on board India's Russian-built submarine, INS Sindhuratna.

The latest accident --- 11th after the INS Sindhurakshak sank in August --- has put the navy's dismal safety record under further scrutiny and underlined its inability to maintain its dwindling Kilo-class fleet.

Joshi's resignation has been accepted by the government. A defence ministry spokesperson said he had stepped down taking moral responsibility for the recent accidents.

Navy vice chief vice-admiral Robin Dhowan will officiate as the chief, even though Western Naval Command chief vice-admiral Shekhar Sinha happens to be the senior-most admiral after Joshi's resignation.

The government will not pick Sinha to head the service as several recent accidents has taken place under his watch.

The accidents under Admiral Joshi's watch had not only tarnished his track record as navy chief but also complicated his relationship with the defence ministry.

The ministry was upset with Joshi's inability to reduce mishaps. Much to the ministry's chagrin, the navy had been in a state of denial under Joshi and had even argued that its safety record was respectable, dismissing a few accidents as "non incidents."

Three months after the INS Sindhurakshak accident, defence minister AK Antony had asked the navy brass to "optimally operate" the country's assets and ensure these were not "frittered away." Joshi is said to have resented this perceived insinuation that the force wasn't conducting itself professionally.

Weeks later, admiral Joshi virtually brushed aside the minister's concerns, stressing that the navy's track record was "not that bad" compared with international navies. A rash of accidents that followed set off alarm bells in the ministry, with the minister giving a piece of his mind to Joshi on several occasions.

The combined cost of warships involved in recent accidents is pegged at more than Rs. 10,000 crore, at a time when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has advised military commanders to exercise prudence in defence acquisitions and "cut our coat according to our cloth."

Dismayed over a string of accidents involving leading warships, defence Antony had asked the navy three weeks ago to clean up its act, saying he wasn't satisfied with the force's functioning.

The latest mishap took place 50 km off the Mumbai coast early Wednesday, while the boat was on a routine training exercise. A navy officer said the sailors became unconscious after smoke started to fill the boat and were airlifted to a naval hospital in Mumbai. Fire in one of the battery compartments, triggered by a short circuit, could have caused the accident, a source said.


"The deputy electrical officer (a lieutenant commander) and the watch keeping officer (a lieutenant) are still missing. Compartments get sealed automatically when the fire-fighting system kicks in," the source said. Senior navy officials, including Commodore Commanding Submarines (West), were on board the submarine when the accident took place.

The submarine had undergone a refit at the naval dockyard in Mumbai barely two months ago, raising serious questions about the quality of upgrade it underwent.

 

Modificato 26 Febbraio 2014 da Scagnetti

[holmes7]

Mi pare indubbio che ci siano gravi carenze nella linea di manutenzione e nell'addestramento degli equipaggi.

 

Certo che pero anche l'hardware che hanno comprato non e' dei migliori.

Modificato 28 Febbraio 2014 da holmes7

[tizi34]

Più che altro hanno sia navi molto moderne che catorci che ormai starebbero bene in un museo

[TT-1 Pinto]

Il nuovo capo della Marina Indiana ....

 

"New Head of Indian Navy Selected" .... http://news.usni.org/2014/04/18/new-head-indian-navy-selected

 

.... si dice pronto a raddrizzare la baracca ....

 

"Will curb Naval mishaps: Admiral Robin Dhowan" .... http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140418/nation-current-affairs/article/will-curb-naval-mishaps-admiral-robin-dhowan

 

Ma non mancano i contraccolpi .... causa scavalcamento ....

 

"Shekhar Sinha quits as Robin Dhowan supersedes to become Navy Chief" .... http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-04-18/news/49236833_1_navy-chief-admiral-dk-joshi-shekhar-sinha

 

 

[fabio-22raptor]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/02/pakistani-fishing-boat-blows-up-chase-indian-navy

 

Una strana storia capitata di recente alla Marina Indiana..

[TT-1 Pinto]

Il cannone da 127 mm per le nuove fregate indiane ..... alla fine lo hanno acquistato in Italia ..... nonostante tutto .....

 

"L’India sceglie i cannoni 127/64 LW Vulcano" ..... http://www.analisidifesa.it/2015/01/lindia-sceglie-i-cannoni-12764-lw-vulcano/

 

'Jane's' ..... "Indian Navy selects OTO Melara 127/64 LW gun" ..... http://www.janes.com/article/47555/indian-navy-selects-oto-melara-127-64-lw-gun

 

'DefenseNews' ..... "Oto Melara To Supply Indian Naval Gun" ..... http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/naval/2015/01/15/india-naval-gun-oto-melara-finmeccanica-probe-italy/21799871/

 

Infine ..... il commento di Gianandrea Gaiani ..... "Cannoni all'India in cambio di Latorre e Girone" ..... http://www.lanuovabq.it/it/articoli-cannoni-allindia-in-cambio-di-latorre-e-girone-11531.htm

[TT-1 Pinto]

Grandi ambizioni per le portaerei di prossima generazione .....

 

The Indian Navy will present a report on the configuration options for the second indigenous Indian Aircraft Carrier (IAC-2) to the Ministry of Defense next month.

At a recent seminar on the country’s naval aviation, it became clear that the vessel will likely be in the 65,000 ton class.

It could be equipped with American aircraft – or a combination that might include the naval version of the French Rafale fighter.

“The fighters must be transformational. We must decide on the aircraft first, and this choice must determine the design of the carrier and its deck,” said an official.

 

Fonte ..... "India Outlines New Carrier Ambitions" ..... http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2015-05-07/india-outlines-new-carrier-ambitions

[TT-1 Pinto]

Intanto ..... nei prossimi giorni si procederà ad un secondo varo della 'Vikrant' .....

 

 

India’s long-delayed carrier is set to enter the water next week while the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi government has approved more money for development of the second indigenous carrier, according to local press reports.

The 40,000-ton INS Vikrant is set to launch from the Cochin Shipyard in the southwest on May 28 following a dry dock period after the initial launch ceremony of the ship in 2013.

 

Fonte ..... "India Will Relaunch First Domestic Carrier Vikrant Next Week, More Money Approved for Second Carrier" ..... http://news.usni.org/2015/05/21/india-will-relaunch-first-domestic-carrier-vikrant-next-week-more-money-approved-for-second-carrier

[TT-1 Pinto]

Meglio tardi che mai .....

 

"Indian Attack Submarine to Conduct Final Trials After 9 Years In Yard for Upgrades" ..... http://news.usni.org/2015/06/24/indian-attack-submarine-to-conduct-final-trials-after-9-years-in-yard-for-upgrades